Thursday, March 29, 2007

Encode EVO to WMVHD

Recently, an user mailed us that he had some problems when he was trying to encode some EVO files to WMVHD using WMEA. So, we did some tests after that, then we've got 2 methods to do this, first in his way, second in our way.

First is more complex, WinDVD8, EVODemux, GraphEdit, Avisynth2.57 and WMEA is needed.
1. Demux EVO to mpv & mpa
2. Using GraphEdit make two filter graphs, write 2 Avisynth script.
3. Make sure WMP can play your 2 avs files, then load separate video & audio avs to WMEA (Using 'Add' -> 'Source'), start encoding job.

Second is easier, WinDVD8, EVODemux, Elecard MPEG-2 Decode Pack 3.0, AC3filter1.11 and WMEA is needed.
1. Demux EVO to mpv & mpa
2. Make sure your mpv & mpa can be played by WMP correctly, then load mpv & mpa to WMEA (Using 'Add' -> 'Source'), start encoding job.

This test passed on WinXP SP2 + WMP11.
Here is a small encoded WMVHD clip: DepartedTrailerclip.wmv
The original EVO file is here, a H.264/DD+ EVO.

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88 comments:

Anonymous said...

what filters are you using in Graphedit? I've been looking at threads on forums which you have been a participant.

audio: DTS source+ intervideo decoder + ??? (what renderer)

Video: intervideo demultiplexor + decoder + null renderer?

I've been using dts and vc1 as the demuxing outputs. The scripts don't complete and I've also tried to load AVS into DivX converter and it fails about 1/2 way through...

Anonymous said...

galaxie,

I keep getting error messages from WMEA when trying this:

Second is easier, WinDVD8, EVODemux, Elecard MPEG-2 Decode Pack 3.0, AC3filter1.11 and WMEA is needed.
1. Demux EVO to mpv & mpa
2. Make sure your mpv & mpa can be played by WMP correctly, then load mpv & mpa to WMEA, start encoding job.

With the clip of the Departed you have posted. I followed exact what that says and I'm getting errors in WMEAssistant.

These are the errors:

The input media format is invalid (for the audio stream)

and

Cannot find a valid output stream (for the video stream)

Thanks for any help

mozart said...

:)

It seems you loaded your mpv & mpa as two 'file's - My fault, I didn't make that clear. Try to load them using 'Add' -> 'Source', then set your mpv as a video source, mpa as a audio source.

Regards.

-mozart

Unknown said...

Hi Galaxie,

I attempted to follow the easy method, but when I go to encode (after adding the 2 source files, mpa and mpv) I recieve an error message that says The Input Media is invalid

What am I doing wrong ?

I have windvd 8 ionstalled, I used EVOdemux, installed Elecard and AC3 Filter1.11

mozart said...

Hi, David

'The Input Media Format is Invalid'...

Did the WMP play your mpv & mpa correctly ?

Did AC3filter output mode be set to 3/2+SW 5.1 channel ?

Regards.

-mozart

Anonymous said...

Hi Galaxie,

I was the second anonymous that posted and said I followed the instructions and was given 2 errors.

I tried this time by using Add => Source and was given this error:

The input media format is invalid.

Both files will play in WMP. Was there a special setting I was supposed to make with the Demux?

Thanks for any help,
Narff

mozart said...

Hi, Narff

What settings did you use for your encoding job ?

if you using 5.1 channel for audio, remember to set ac3filter output mode to '3/2+SW 5.1 channel' ^_^

Regards.

-mozart

Anonymous said...

I had uninstalled everything and now put it back. I made sure that AC3filter was set up for 5.1.

This then gave me a new error:

Access violation at address 08BAAB70 in module 'WMEncEng.dll'. Read of address 00000007.

Again, thanks for all the help.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, accidentally left out the settings.

I've tried the following for video:

Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile (also tried Windows Media Video 9)
VBR-Quality set at 95.
CBR-1 with the bit rate set to 7000kbs

Audio:

Windows Media Audio 10 Pro
640kbs (Also tried 384)
48000 Hz
6 Channel (5.1)
24 bit

mozart said...

Hi, Narff

Access violation at address 08BAAB70 in module 'WMEncEng.dll'. It often caused by codec problems. Make sure your media files can be played by WMP correctly.

The Input Media Format is Invalid often caused by conflict between input media stream and output encoding settings.

Please check out WMEA Encoding Guide on the website.

Regards.

-mozart

Unknown said...

Thanks Galaxie,

Looks like it is encoding now after changing the option in AC3 filter... Its "preparing" with one of my two cores fully pegged out at 100%.. going on 4 hours ;p Cant complain, it is a 12 gig file (Riddick) so I expect it to take some time

Encoding settings I chose hopefully will give me the results I want :)

mozart said...

Hi, David

Encoding time depends on your input media stream's duration, complexity, output encoding settings, and your PC's hardware.

-mozart

shaolin95 said...

Can you please post the graph filters you are using for both video and audio?
thanks :-)

Anonymous said...

I also tried your program, I demuxed my EVO file to mpv and mpa streams. I can't open either one in WMP (11, since it's Vista), however I did install Elecard and ac3filters.

I can open the .mpv, and it WILL play in PowerDVD 7.3. I can't find anything that will play the demuxed .mpa file at all.

PowerDVD 7.3 WILL play the HD-DVD movie folder off the hard drive, so I know the needed codecs are there.

When I load these into WMEA, it says "input media format is invalid" every time. If I try to load the .mpv by itself, it crashes instantly. If I try to play the .mpv in Media player classic, it also crashes instantly.

Just seems so far away from "just working"... but looks like a promising program for the future...

mozart said...

Hi,luis

I'm using graph as below(If I remembered correctly)

video -> Elecard MPEG Demultiplexer -> InterVideo Video Decoder

audio -> AC3 Parser Filter -> AC3Filter(using 'Filter Properties ...' to configure output)

mozart said...

"I also tried your program, I demuxed my EVO file to mpv and mpa streams. I can't open either one in WMP (11, since it's Vista), however I did install Elecard and ac3filters."

- I'm not sure these methods can work on Vista at this moment.

"I can open the .mpv, and it WILL play in PowerDVD 7.3. I can't find anything that will play the demuxed .mpa file at all.

PowerDVD 7.3 WILL play the HD-DVD movie folder off the hard drive, so I know the needed codecs are there."

- Normally, WMEA won't encode your sources if WMP can't play them.

"When I load these into WMEA, it says "input media format is invalid" every time. If I try to load the .mpv by itself, it crashes instantly. If I try to play the .mpv in Media player classic, it also crashes instantly."

- Like I replyed to Narff, "The Input Media Format is Invalid often caused by conflict between input media stream and output encoding settings."

"Just seems so far away from "just working"... but looks like a promising program for the future..."

- Thank you.

Anonymous said...

does this method give u 5.1 surround

mozart said...

"does this method give u 5.1 surround"

Definitely, you can download DepartedTrailerClip.wmv that linked to have a sample :)

Anonymous said...

I know i might sound dumb but this is what i am trying to do

I have the XBOX360 hd-dvd drive

i have ripped the HD movie using Slysoft Anyhddvd to my hard drive

now how do i convert that to wmv

can you help me with like a step by step tutorial

do i need to use evodemux or other tools

mozart said...

"I know i might sound dumb but this is what i am trying to do

I have the XBOX360 hd-dvd drive

i have ripped the HD movie using Slysoft Anyhddvd to my hard drive

now how do i convert that to wmv

can you help me with like a step by step tutorial

do i need to use evodemux or other tools"

:) Sorry, this post is a encoding test note, not a step by step guide.

Anonymous said...

Hello,

i tried the second method. It gives me a error while preparing. Its says that there is no DMR profile selected. I installed everything i should.

Greetz Patrick

mozart said...

Hi, Greetz Patrick

"i tried the second method. It gives me a error while preparing. Its says that there is no DMR profile selected. I installed everything i should."

You mean DRM profile? eh, some ripped media file will caused this error.

Anonymous said...

Firstly I'm keen to get this tool if it works :)

Questions. Does this work for VC-1 EVO? I noticed the departed trailer is h.264?

I am able to playback both the mpv and mpa in WMP. I get the same errors as someone else. I have done the AC3filter change to 5.1 SW.

"The input media format is invalid (for the audio stream)"

and

"Cannot find a valid output stream (for the video stream)"

is there anything I can check to see if my filters/settings are wrong.

Anonymous said...

Galaxie,
I used eac3to.exe to split and convert a BDMV (m2ts file) to an mkv and ac3 file. The two files both play perfactly in WMP 11 on Vista and in the player built into WME Assistant.
I then did an 'Add/Source' to the two files - mkv being the video, and ac3 being the audio. The video settings were set for WMV 9 AP and the audio were set for WMA 10 P and both were set for CBR-1Pass.
I also tried setting/unsetting the 3/2 SW in AC3Filter, but no options that i set would allow me to convert. I always get the error "The input media format is invalid".
I would appreciate a more detailed explanation of what needs to be matched between the input stream and the output.
One of the descriptions of your product says that it will convert it if it can play in WMP. I have not been able to convert VOBs either which also play in WMP. The only thing that I have been able to convert is an mp4 which I created using Nero.

Please help.
Thanks,
Greg
gregt@greenboxent.com

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